Free State Party

Should Immigration Be Enforced at the Border or Everywhere?

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not in the interior i believe i was a disagree on this one and i think you were in you were in agree yeah yeah uh well this is actually probably one of the most uh uh parochial like sort of narrow uh topics you know i i could probably kind of anticipate your you know your position here because you kind of laid it out already yeah we already kind of touched on it which is yeah we do it externally and you know leave it up to the states or so on to me this is one where i could imagine something like that in the sort of status quo today where we don't you know we don't have federalism on the topic of immigration once you're here you can you know go anywhere and as you mentioned earlier we have a lot of states that would be very loose with you know that aren't interested in enforcing you their laws and so on and so forth and so um it's really just a practical question of well what's the alternative you know uh well we're only going to enforce immigration at the border we're not going to enforce it in the interior federally we're not going to enforce it with banking laws we're not going to enforce it in residency laws we're not going to push with employment laws and it's like well this does start to look like you're not you're not enforcing it at all and so if there's some

other practical way of doing it again like i want i want a new hampshire that's independent from the federal government i like the idea that my state can um you know i i ice wouldn't actually be the area where i'm that concerned about it but i i don't you know i would like to be able to say the feds should go screw themselves in lots of other areas uh so uh you know uh but what's you know how how you know and i guess how are we doing it i mean i guess your answer is we catch them that they're criminals yeah if they're yeah no it's interesting what do you think about something like driver's licenses or something like that because a lot of people say you shouldn't have any driver's license at all i'm very pro driver's license so if you say well there would be a good way and then you could say if you're caught without a driver's license that's a problem and you've got to present proof that you're here legally if you have if you get a driver's license yeah i mean i think in general and this is maybe a little bit off topic but we should be comparing things to the you know private alternatives like that's my sort of school of of liberty and it's like i i actually think uh this is uh don't don't clip this part but i i actually think we've got it if you're pro privacy and freedom

you've actually got it pretty good with government roads like i think i think if the roads were privatized we'd probably have like harsher and more jacodian kinds of of systems because like the road you don't want palantir running the road i'm not i'm not this is not a this is not a like uh what's it this is a and it is not an ought i just think that the actual demand for privacy in the marketplace isn't that large uh and so you know if we had if we ever did have private roads we'd probably i'm way off topic we'd see we'd see ways to get enforcement and so um yeah uh i i don't know how i don't i don't how much more do you want to talk about this one we could no i think that makes sense i mean uh you know i'd like to see more at the border but you know maybe what we need is a kinder gentler ice you know maybe maybe just like the old ins or something like that you know to consider your point especially in these lefty states where they're just not going to enforce anything are they actually you know maybe there is a place for the feds i think they should be the last possible resort i know there were a couple of bad incidents and i wouldn't defend them wholly necessarily but this is also across a very large number of interactions in places where they're frequently

meeting a lot of resistance you know and it's tough because we learn things by anecdote which isn't the best way to understand things when there's hundreds of thousands or millions or you know whatever happening it is is it have they actually been that bad like my my impression is again i could point to a couple i didn't love but my impression is it hasn't been it's been okay overall i you know yeah i mean they were to your point they were they were partly trying to look bad i think in some way i mean they're trying to be scary yeah i'm trying to make a show of force and there's a reason that they picked tim wall's estate to show up heavy-handed we haven't seen it here in new hampshire as much thank goodness i think we might feel different at least i would i wouldn't be i wouldn't want to see these guys with the i don't like feds with masks i wouldn't want to i don't want somebody pulling me over on the way to come here to manchester and be like oh well actually we didn't have it as tough but i still agree with that i mean and i know um this has been an unpopular one even with my own audience but i agree that if you're a federal agent you have to be identifiable i think that's like a requirement uh you know uh to me and so this idea that

it's risky for them or whatever okay that's what you're signing up for we can increase the pay i you know but you're gonna i think you have to be identifiable that's i i do i do agree with that